Jul 20, 1. Apr 4, Scottsdale Az. I think they are! A lot of boutique pickups get a lot of play here on TB My aim is not to knock these pickups at all, but rather to give a shout out to pickups that imho are underestimated, under discussed, and deliver incredible tone.
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They are really more like three variations of the Areas. I understand that my information will be shared with the dealer and may be used by the dealer to facilitate this contact. Display as a link instead. Browse More Premium Dealers. To me they sound muffled, specially when it comes to aggressive dynamics. I wonder if its cause Porn video gallerie use k pots with em? May 18, 1. I liked the idea Vintage noiseless vs scn bass noiseless and the extra 5 pickup settings as long as it had the Strat sound. The VN's sound better to my ears but I did replace the bridge pickup which was thin and weak sounding with a Hot VN, which was an improvement. May 19, 2.
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Discussion in ' Guitars in General ' started by mysterious1s , May 18, Log in or Sign up. The Gear Page. May 18, 1. Messages: 1, N3 vs. SCN vs. Looking for thoughts and opinions from those of you who have played at least 2 of these or all 3. May 19, 2. Ok then. Lets hear some bashing. May 19, 3. I haven't tried the N3's yet and I own an '04 Am.
Deluxe the first year with the SCN's. Fatter, fuller with clearer bass and highs. Class5 , May 19, May 19, 4. Messages: 7, I've been trying to get someone to talk about the N3's ever since they came out. The silence is deafening. May 19, 5. Messages: The SD Plus stacks suffer from the same complete lack of interest, but somehow the Dimarzio Areas are really well liked on this board. Don't know it's because a lot of people have tried the SDs and don't like them, or something else. May 19, 6.
The VN just seemed thin and cheap to my ears so I got rid of them quickly. They have a full sound but they seemed like they lacked a little high end bite.
I really tried to let them grow on me for a year and a half and they never did. I do have to say that they are so good I think it mostly a matter of preference and not quality if someone likes them. I did replace them with Dimarzio Area 58s and I think they are as of a good classic "strat" sound that you can get out of a noiseless pickup.
May 19, 7. Messages: 17, VN's are especially well suited for the Clapton models with on board boost. Turn the boost up to 2 or 3 and the tone gets pleasingly fat while still maintaining plenty of that glassy-ness and quack we look for in Strats. Nearly dead quiet too, which is especially important with boost.
But in Strats without the boost, I agree that they can sound a bit thin. AaeCee , May 19, Matt L likes this. May 19, 8. I've had all three types in Stratocasters but its been years so I can't remember many details. I put VN's into an American Standard Strat and I really didn't like them - they sounded completely lifeless and quite thin. The guitar sounds like I think a Strat should sound in each position - a bit too thin and biting on the bridge so you have to roll back the tone, the middle is actually my favourite position for playing clean and the neck is good and round sounding.
I think the N3's are easily the best of the bunch. The new V-neck is also the nicest playing Strat I've ever owned as well. I haven't found a use for that one yet. So yeah, I would definitely recommend the N3's out of the bunch.
Lemonhand , May 19, Kencito likes this. May 19, 9. Messages: 2, I just don't like the noiseless pickups I guess, but I'd like to.
May 19, I had a deluxe strat with SCNs Once I started buying more guitars I decided to make that strat into a clean machine with Alnico II pickups. I'm about to sell the SCNs on a loaded pickguard actually, S1 system intact Messages: 5, I found the SCN's to be louder, punchier, very clean, quiet, but not real strat sounding to me. They sounded pretty good clean but the over driven tone was lacking.
The VN's sound better to my ears but I did replace the bridge pickup which was thin and weak sounding with a Hot VN, which was an improvement. I haven't played the newest ones yet. Fender must as well also, as the SCN's didn't last too long but the VN's have been used for a decade or more.
May 20, What year did Fender start using the N3 pups and the compound radius necks? Those are new features on the American Deluxes. Lemonhand , May 20, Sep 24, Messages: 2. As a previous viewer of several posts here, I thought I would post my experiences from this past weekend with regards to these various pickups.
I liked the idea of noiseless and the extra 5 pickup settings as long as it had the Strat sound. I had read that the N3's and SCN's were not so great and a bunch of people were replacing them with the Dimarzio Area pickups. I also heard a video of some guy that compared some Dimarzio Area pickups to true Strat single coils and they sounded almost identical - actually the Areas sounded slightly better to me.
That seemed the way to go. Suddenly, this Deluxe I had my eye on was looking like not such a good deal if I was going to have to spend all this additional time and money on it to make it sound like a Strat.
Time to go to the guitar shop and test for myself. I wasn't sure which one was which sorry! Both the Deluxes felt and played nice though. It had the most Stratty sound and hum so far, but it felt so cheap after playing the deluxes. The guitar guy then brought me a brand new "heavy relic" Strat - not sure which year 59 - ish. It was super light also. He said it was his favourite guitar in the shop. It had a 5-way pickup selector and, to my total amazement, almost no hum. This one sounded and felt the best to me but still kinda pricey at 3 grand - maybe if I win the lottery.
I then thought I should give the American Standard another try. I did and it felt even cheaper than the first time. Long story short, my wife kicked in the dough to get the used 59 relic after negotiating a much better deal. My Christmas present for the next 10 years! My lessons learned: -you can learn a lot from the internet but let your ears decide in the end -if you want a classic Strat sound, the Fender noiseless pickups don't seem to get you there at least not the SCN's and N3's -don't get too scared off by a bit of hum.
It can be tamed. I'm guessing better shielding under the pick guard - lot's of internet articles on how to do this. Even just turning your body a bit can greatly reduce any hum. Happy playing. Last edited: Sep 24, Dec 30, Messages: 1. Hey everyone I'm new to this page, so, sorry for commenting a couple of months later. To be honest, I don't like them at all. I own an American Deluxe Strat with these pickups and I was hoping they would sound more classic to me.
I still don't know why, the classic Fender tone is very unique and therefore many people like me try to acquire that tone.
Of course, the best part is that there is no hum. Only 75 emoji are allowed. The neck pickup and maybe the middle pickup remind me of the Vintage Noiseless. The Pro 54, and heavy blues both still use the Alnico 2 magnets, and use whatever technology the Area pickups do that make them sound so good, but are warmer, and the heavy blues has more output. Views Read Edit View history.
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Users browsing this forum: 9NE, Google [Bot] and 2 guests. Posted: Wed Sep 07, am. I have a American Deluxe Start and I am thinking about swapping out the stock pups for a "noiseless" version and possibly adding the S1 switching. There seems to be three different versions of the Fender "noiseless" pups out there.
Can anyone tell me the differences or at least point me in the right direction? They've got more spank, more balls, more grunt, more grit, more of everything compared to your three possible candidates. They use standard k volume and tone pots so you can keep your existing wiring.
Posted: Wed Sep 07, pm. Love my SCNs. I'm a little confused. I also have a Deluxe Strat, and mine came with the Vintage Noiseless. If your Strat has something other than Vintage Noiseless, then it sounds like the pickups have been changed out already.
Personally the Vintage Noiseless are outstanding pickups, and I don't have any plans to change them out anytime soon. Love my SCN's too Posted: Thu Sep 08, am. Sorry guys operator error. My axe is a "Standard" not a "Deluxe". I do enjoy the tone of these stock pick-ups, but the noise is buggin' me. If I could get the same or better tone without the noise that would be great. I looked into the DiMarzio "Area" pups, guess what there's three vesions of those too.
Thanks for help so far. Still trying to sort it all out. The Solo Pro is just a skosh hotter than the other two, which provides some real bite and growl when it's time for serious riff and solo work.
I have two guitars configured thus. Posted: Thu Sep 08, pm. Have fun wiring up the S1 switch, be prepared to swear and burn all day I desperately wanted to make that work with the DiMarzio's but it just wasn't in the cards.
They sound pretty ballsy nonetheless with conventional 5-way switching. I did wire the Solo Pro my bridge pickup to the bottom tone pot to provide some "bite" control. Days i work in the shop, if i hear someone come in and I hear them mention American Deluxe and wiring in the same conversation; i find that i need to use the bathroom or need to run an errand. They are the worst things next to the Gibson Varitone to wire up. The series wiring, IMO, is good in the neck position, but the bridge, while having an interesting sound, would never be mistaken for a humbucker.
It's got a good deal of output a reading of about 12 ohms , but it has no definition at all. The neck is cool in series, real warm. I think to get the most useable tone out of single coils in series is to have 1 Vol, 1 Master tone, and having the 2nd tone knob used as a blender pot hooked up to the middle pickup. That way you could add in the middle to the neck or bridge, and fine tune it. Then you could get your Strat tones, and a good mock-Tele with the 4 way switches. I had decided a while ago i wanted noiseless.
At the time, the band i was with, and my own place had ancient wiring in the walls, and 60 cycle hum was an issue.
The Dimarzio's blew everything else out of the water, especially for a real vintage-stratty tone. Real dynamic, and resonsive to pick attack. SCN's are nice, but they have a more modern sound, which may be what you're looking for. My issue with them was the amount of pull the pickups. So you really have to set them relatively far from the strings. Farther I find than even the vintage noiseless.
The Area pickups are like the polar opposite. Next to Lace pickups, i havent used single coil sized pickups that i could set that close, and get that many tonal changes from really small height adjustments. The Pro 54, and heavy blues both still use the Alnico 2 magnets, and use whatever technology the Area pickups do that make them sound so good, but are warmer, and the heavy blues has more output.
Its probably somewhere in between the Area 61 and a Solo pickup. Page 1 of 3. Previous topic Next topic. You can search Bill Lawrence's website for the whole story on that design if you desire the gory details. Fender made quite a big deal out of the fact they these were going into the new guitar.
Search the Fender website for similar details on the N3's. As for the Vintage Noiseless, other than the fact that the sent them to EC for a tryout and he liked them enough to swap out the LS's in his stage guitars, I've never seen any detailed discussion on them. Might want to check the ground wiring if the guitar has ever been opened up. They are really more like three variations of the Areas. The 61 is the hottest, the 58 is the most vintage-y, the 67 is an attempt to get that late sixties Strat sound.
Of course, the best part is that there is no hum. IIRC, Dimarzio is now selling loaded Area pickguards with the combination that just need to be wired to ground and the jack.
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